Terminology
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This post got me thinking. How many of our arguments (either amongst ourselves or with others) stem from the fact that everyone has a slightly different interpretation of key words we use? I'm going to post a few different words that are rather important when discussing trans issues and I'd love it if everyone could go through and give their definitions of these words so that I can make a list for n00bs (all of them can be anon if you wish). My own definitions will be in the comments.
The Words:
Sex
Gender
Transgender
Transexual
Trans*
Male
Female
Man/boy
Woman/girl
Cisgender
Gay
Lesbian
Straight
Bisexual
Pansexual
Polysexual
Asexual
Ally
Stealth
Out (as in out of the closet, not as in out to the store)
Pride
The Words:
Sex
Gender
Transgender
Transexual
Trans*
Male
Female
Man/boy
Woman/girl
Cisgender
Gay
Lesbian
Straight
Bisexual
Pansexual
Polysexual
Asexual
Ally
Stealth
Out (as in out of the closet, not as in out to the store)
Pride
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Date: 2009-05-03 04:19 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-05-03 04:55 pm (UTC)Gender - A self-identification. Man, woman, transgender, genderqueer, none, other, this is an area people can fully individualise. Identify as a flying rhino horn if that's what you feel like.
Transgender - A person whose internal gender identification does not match the one society has assigned to them. Can also be a gender identification all by itself. Ex: child assumed to be a girl, but insists they are a boy.
Transexual - A person whose birth sex does not match the sex they feel they should have. Ex: child born female, but wishes to have a penis.
Trans* - Umbrella term for anyone who does not fit standard gender norms. Genderqueer, transexual, transgender, polygender, non-gender, bigender, cross-dresser, etc.
Male - Physical sex. Can be used as an internal identification, particularly for transexuals, but can get a bit tricky. Also one half of what most people think of when they think of sex/gender.
Female - Same as above, but for people with vaginas, ovaries, uterus, etc.
Man/boy - One of an unlimited number of gender identifications. Takes he/him/his forms and is on one far end of gender presentations. Not ALL men/boys present in the same way, there simply happens to be a majority who agree on certain things (like not wearing skirts).
Woman/girl - Same as above, but for the other far end of gender presentation. Takes she/her/her's forms. Has a much wider variety of presentation options thanks to women's lib.
Cisgender - Someone whose internal gender identity matches the one people assume them to have. Problematic when used to describe others as we don't know what's going on in their heads (or their pants, for that matter).
Gay - Person who prefers to date/sleep with members of the same sex OR gender. I tend to use it to mean men who are interested in men, but that's just because I like the word "lesbian" and enjoy having opportunities to use it.
Lesbian - Woman who prefers to date/sleep with other women. By this definition transmen *cannot* be lesbians (nor can any other men, but you rarely see non-transmen claiming to be lesbians without getting decked).
Straight - Person who is attracted to people of the opposite sex/gender. Generally considered to be the most common sexual orientation.
Bisexual - Person who is attracted to people regardless of sex/gender. Often considered to be problematic due to there not being only two sexes/genders.
Pansexual/Polysexual - Person who is attracted to people regardless of sex/gender. Considered a better alternative to bisexual due to the inclusion of more than two sexes/genders.
Asexual - Person who is not sexually attracted to anyone. Can be emotionally attracted to people in the same way as gay/straight/bi/pan/polysexual people are. Same relationships, just no sex.
Ally - Person who supports the cause of a given group while not being a member of said group themselves. Ex: straight person supporting gay rights.
Stealth - Person who lives their life without other people knowing about their trans status. There are varying degrees of stealth so that while one person may have burnt every photo of themself prior to transition, others may simply not mention it to new friends/coworkers.
Out - As it relates to transpeople, a person who openly tells others about their trans status. Many transpeople are out to begin with even if they don't want to be due to passing issues. Also has varying degrees depending on personal comfort.
Pride - Giant parade/party every June (in the US, timing may be different in other countries). Often supported year round by the wearing of rainbow accessories. Sometimes trans-inclusive, usually not. Not all transpeople (or GLB people for that matter) agree with Pride. I love it and wish it could go on all year.
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Date: 2009-05-03 10:26 pm (UTC)I tend to consider myself bisexual rather than pansexual mainly because I am attracted to more masculine men and more feminine women. Although as far as physical "bits" go, I prefer a roll in the sack with a person whose bits are female, so I actually find other ftms more appealing than cisgendered men. I like rugged-looking men, I just.... don't like penis that much >.<
Not all transpeople (or GLB people for that matter) agree with Pride. I love it and wish it could go on all year.
I'm definitely in agreement with you on that. I can't imagine I would ever go stealth after transition, I suspect I'm likely to be the sort of person campagning for trans advocacy and marching under the rainbow flag for the rest of my life, and loving every minute of it.
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Date: 2009-05-03 10:41 pm (UTC)I love Pride, but for the gay side of myself rather than the trans side. I had a friend whose parents started taking us to SF Pride when he came out at 13 so it's a huge part of my background. Trans...isn't really. To me it's like my asthma. Some people should know for health and safety reasons, but not everyone needs to.
Funny part is, I couldn't imagine being stealth when I first came out. I thought people who weren't 100% out and proud were denying a part of themselves. Then I started passing all the time and realised just how awkward it is to be out as trans when no one questions whether you're a guy or a girl.
[shrugs] These days explaining what may or may not be in my pants is more trouble than it's worth. Particularly since thinking about what's missing just makes me depressed. I still stand up for trans rights, but now people view me as an ally rather than a transperson.
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Date: 2009-05-04 11:11 am (UTC)You're seriously saying trans men are female? o_O (And that trans women aren't?)
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Date: 2009-05-04 01:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-05-04 11:13 am (UTC)Um, what?
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Date: 2009-05-04 01:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-05-03 10:18 pm (UTC)Sex -
the act of....no wait. This would be a person's physical, bodily sex. The current one, not necessarily the one at birth.Gender - This would be where a person self-identifies on the masculine-feminine spectrum.
Transgender - a person whose gender does not match their current physical sex
Transexual - a person whose gender dos not match birth sex, and has undergone or is undergoing transition in order to change sex.
Trans* - umbrella covering transgender and transsexual
Male - an adjective to describe a person at the masculine end of the gender spectrum
Female - an adjective to describe a person at the feminine end of the gender spectrum
Man/boy - a noun to describe a person of masculine gender
Woman/girl - a noun to describe a person of feminine gender
Cisgender - a person whose gender and sex were always in agreement and has not undergone transition
Gay - sexual attraction to people of the same gender as oneself
Lesbian - as above but limited to female-gendered people
Straight - sexual attraction to people of the opposite gender to oneself
Bisexual - sexual attraction to people at either end of the gender spectrum, both male and female
Pansexual - sexual attraction to people anywhere on the gender spectrum
Polysexual - I actually have never heard this term before and can't imagine how it would differ from Pansexual
Asexual - lack of sexual attraction
Ally - someone who is not transgendered but is a supporter of those who are.
Stealth - living totally in the closet as one's chosen (new) gender without revealing one's past.
Out (as in out of the closet, not as in out to the store) - being open to others (in terms of trans*-ness or sexual orientation)
Pride - sense of belonging to or identifying with the LGBT community
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Date: 2009-05-03 10:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-03 10:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-04 12:23 pm (UTC)Woman/girl - a noun to describe a person of feminine gender
Male - an adjective to describe a person at the masculine end of the gender spectrum
Female - an adjective to describe a person at the feminine end of the gender spectrum
Uhhhhhhhhh NO NO NO NO.
Gender - This would be where a person self-identifies on the masculine-feminine spectrum.
People who are not really self-aware about gender also HAVE a gender.
Transgender - a person whose gender does not match their current physical sex
Transexual - a person whose gender dos not match birth sex, and has undergone or is undergoing transition in order to change sex.
WHAT?
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Date: 2009-05-04 03:16 pm (UTC)Gender: The classification of a word or grammatical form in a category or set, one category of such a set, or the distinguishing form or forms used in reference to one category of such a set.
Transgender: A general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies that diverge from the normative gender role (woman or man) commonly, but not always, assigned at birth, as well as the role traditionally held by society.
Transexual: Persona que adopta los caracteres sexuales del sexo opuesto-asignado mediante procesos hormonales y quirúrgicos.
Trans*: A reference to all or any of the words (and groups described by said words) beginning with the prefix trans- (and, additionally, the adjective "trans" as well).
Male: Someone who identifies their body as such
Female: Someone who identifies their body as such
Man/boy: Someone who identifies within that particular social category
Woman/girl: Someone who identifies within that particular social category
Cisgender: Not transgender
Gay: Same-gender loving, also a sexual identity
Lesbian: Same-gender loving woman
Straight: Opposite-gender loving
Bisexual: Both/any-gender loving
Pansexual: Lover of pans, flutes, and trannies. Often used by chasers.
Polysexual: Did you mean "polyamorous?"
Asexual: Single-organism reproduction. Also, a sexual identity indicating low or nonexistent libido.
Ally: Someone who's rather full of them-self to feel that they're entitled to base an identity indicating how great they are on the existence of marginalized groups from whose oppression they benefit.
Stealth: The quality or characteristic of being furtive or covert. See also: Assimilation
Out (as in out of the closet, not as in out to the store): Openly queer and/or trans
Pride: Fun event for the warmer seasons
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Date: 2009-05-04 03:38 pm (UTC)ILU.
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Date: 2009-05-04 03:45 pm (UTC)And no, polysexual was not a mistake. I've spoken to people who actually have stated a preference so I thought I'd include it in the hopes that *someone* could give me a real reason as to why it's different from pansexual.
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Date: 2009-05-05 12:13 am (UTC)YES. THIS.
That took me a while, and I'm still not perfectly happy...
Date: 2009-05-04 03:35 pm (UTC)Sex The biological sex as defined by one's genetic makeup and natural reproductive organs.
Gender A role related to social interaction and environments. Can be set or fluent, depending on the person's self-identification and/or social environment. May be, but must not be related to the person's sex.
Transgender a) A state in which a person does not feel they belong to the gender assigned to them
b) a recently preferred term for transsexual as it is considered to encompass a far wider range of self-identification
Transexual A state in which a person considers their sex to not fit their gender
Trans* A common term for all forms of transitioning between genders and/or sexes
Male a) having the xy chromosome
b) a gender identity connected to certain characteristics most commonly defined by one's social environment
Female a) having the xx chromosome
b) a gender identity connected to certain characteristics most commonly defined by one's social environment
Man/boy a male person (see 'male' above)
Woman/girl a female person (see 'female' above)
Cisgender a state in which one feels their gender and natural sex are congruent
Gay being physically and/or romantically attracted to persons of the same sex and/or gender
Lesbian being of the female gender and/or sex and being physically and/or romantically attracted to other person of the female sex and/or gender
Straight being physically and/or romantically attracted to persons of the other gender and/or sex in a binary gender system
Bisexual being physically and/or romantically attracted to persons of either gender and/or sex in a binary gender system
Pansexual being physically and/or romantically attracted to persons of all genders and/or sexes in non-binary gender systems
Polysexual being physically and/or romantically attracted to persons of many but not necessarily all genders and/or sexes in non-binary gender systems
Asexual not being sexually attracted to others. Romantic attraction is however possible and sexuality still exists.
Ally Someone who supports the rights and situations of trans persons while not being trans themselves.
(I ... honestly dislike this term. It sounds too much like part of a war situation to me. I prefer a simple 'friend'.)
Stealth hiding one's trans* state from other people
Out informing other people about one's trans* state
Pride a movement that celebrates gender diversity and encourages people to never be ashamed nor let others treat them like they should be ashamed of their gender and/or sexuality.
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Date: 2009-05-04 04:00 pm (UTC)And you gave me an actual definition of polysexual! I've been trying to figure out the difference between pansexual and polysexual since I first heard the term, thank you.
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Date: 2009-05-04 04:14 pm (UTC)Moreover, I'd venture to say that most trans* people have never had genetic testing and wouldn't know their own karyotypes anyway.
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Date: 2009-05-04 07:26 pm (UTC)XX=female, XY=male is very simplistic, and nature is much more complicated than that.
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Date: 2009-05-04 11:28 pm (UTC)And then there are days when I feel certain that two-by-fours are the universal language, and that some people are in dire need of discussion in that tongue...
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Date: 2009-05-05 01:14 am (UTC)Btw, your comment was automatically screened because you're not a member.
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